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Heat Exchange Model does not work with using tidal flats 5 years 9 months ago #32704

  • taoan
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Hello friends,

I am experiencing a problem to run telemac3d heat exchange model with tidal flats dry areas.

When I run a case without dry areas the model works well, but if dry areas occurs the model crashes with this error:



MASS BALANCE
MASS BALANCE
INITIAL MASS OF WATER IN THE DOMAIN : 2986151096081.4336
TELEMAC3D COUPLED WITH: WAQTEL
TRID3D: SYSTEM ILL-DEFINEDapplication called MPI_Abort(MPI_COMM_WORLD, 2) - process 0

PRECONDITIONING 17 IMPOSSIBLE

PLANTE: PROGRAM STOPPED AFTER AN ERROR
RETURNING EXIT CODE: 2
unable to read the cmd header on the pmi context, Error = -1
.
Error posting readv, Foi forþado o cancelamento de uma conexÒo existente pelo host remoto.(10054)

job aborted:
rank: node: exit code[: error message]
0: ZOI: 2: process 0 exited without calling finalize
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runcode::main:
:
|runCode: Fail to run
|C:\opentelemac-mascaret\mpich2\bin\mpiexec.exe -wdir D:\MODELAGEM-UTE-GLOBAL\bts3d.cas_2019-01-26-11h53min56s -n 1 -localonly D:\MODELAGEM-UTE-GLOBAL\bts3d.cas_2019-01-26-11h53min56s\out_telemac3d.exe
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|application called MPI_Abort(MPI_COMM_WORLD, 2) - process 0



I believe that I am not set the correct configuration for using heat exchange model with tidal flats. I attached my configuration files to check.

Any help will be very appreciated.

With best regards,

Taoan
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Heat Exchange Model does not work with using tidal flats 5 years 9 months ago #32729

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Hi,
We have also experienced this kind of issues, it is related to a numerical instability that shows up when using heat exchanges with the atmosphere + active tracers + tidal flats. At the moment I can only advise you to lower the value of your time step size and use the option 1 for heat exchanges with the atmosphere...

Best regards,
Agnès
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Heat Exchange Model does not work with using tidal flats 5 years 9 months ago #32744

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Hello Aleroy,

Thank you for your suggestion, I will try option 1 for heat exchanges with atmosphere and set a lower time step.

I also noted that heat exchange model does not works with salinity as active traces, even without dry areas. Do you have any suggestions on how to configure the heat exchange model to apply salinity as active tracers?

With best regards,

Taoan
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Heat Exchange Model does not work with using tidal flats 5 years 9 months ago #32959

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Hello Agnès & Taoan,

The same problem also bothered me for a while but after some trial and error I found a solution, that's using k-e model and refine the mesh as much as possible, and as Agnès mentioned, lower the time step accordingly. It works perfectly in my case at least, hope it also does for yours @taoan

Best regards,
Yunhao
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Heat Exchange Model does not work with using tidal flats 5 years 8 months ago #32973

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Hello Yunhao,

Thank you for your suggestion. Could you please attach your .cas file for I check it?

With best regards,

Taoan
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