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Hello!

I have a wave simulation with storm waves entering through the outer boundary. The waves at the boundary in the results are however not as high as I have specified in the cas-file (see attached). I want them to be 4.75 m but the results show a wave height of about 4.3 meters at the boundary nodes. Can anyone give me any tips about this problem? The water depth at the boundary is about 28 m.

Also I am not quite sure on how the keyword FREQUENTIAL RATIO affects the results. Can anyone explain this?

Hello

The frequential ratio gives how the frequencies are discretized. the frequencies are given by M0*r^n
r is the frequential ratio in your case : 1.1 is a value generally taken.
M0 the minimal frequency in your case 0.06

In your case here is the set of frequencies (30)
0.066 0.0726 0.07986 0.087846 0.0966306 0.1062937 0.1169230 0.1286153 0.1414769 0.1556245 0.171187 0.1883057 0.2071363 0.2278499 0.2506349 0.2756984 0.3032682 0.3335950 0.3669545 0.40365 0.444015 0.4884165 0.5372581 0.5909840 0.6500824 0.7150906 0.7865997 0.8652596 0.9517856 1.0469641

the values you set gives you a set of frequency with the closer values to 0.11834 (the frequency you asked) of 0.1169230 and 0.1286153. So you are not exactly at the top of the peak but i guess you are closed enough.

May be that you should check if the problem your height is still present without any source term (CONSIDERATION OF SOURCE TERMS = FALSE). That wuold mean that the difference of heigth is due to dissipation.

hope this helps

regards

T.

Thanks! I will try to change the discretization of the frequencies so that I catch the desired frequency.

I have already checked the influence of bottom friction, white capping, and breaking respectively and they are not the problem.

/Charlotta

Hi!

I have now changed the frequencies (the explanation really helped to understand how they are discretized) - but the waves entering the model are still at the same level.

Also energy seems to disappear to fast in the model (even though I exclude the source terms) over a distance where the waves should loose about 0,1 m in height the loose 1,5 m. I wonder if energy can dissipate some other way (if it is lost numerically due do to discretization for example)?

Here are my setup for the discretization (I have a wave boundary that varies in time):

NUMBER OF DIRECTIONS = 90
NUMBER OF FREQUENCIES = 19
MINIMAL FREQUENCY = 0.118
FREQUENTIAL RATIO = 1.12
SPECTRUM TAIL FACTOR = 5.
/
LIMIT SPECTRUM MODIFIED BY USER = YES
/
/

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/ BOUNDARY
/

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TYPE OF BOUNDARY DIRECTIONAL SPECTRUM = 6
BOUNDARY SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT = 1.
BOUNDARY PEAK FREQUENCY = 0.1
BOUNDARY MAXIMUM PEAK FREQUENCY = 0.1
BOUNDARY PEAK FACTOR = 3.3
BOUNDARY SPECTRUM VALUE OF SIGMA-A =0.07
BOUNDARY SPECTRUM VALUE OF SIGMA-B =0.09
BOUNDARY MAIN DIRECTION 1 = 120.
BOUNDARY ANGULAR DISTRIBUTION FUNCTION =2

Regards,
Charlotta

Hello

reading your message i have no explanation that would come straight. I guess that i need the whole case to see what's happening.
So if it is possible could you send me
- the test case (if it is different from SkaldW_SvenP.cas).
- the mesh with the depth (the geo file).
- the cli file.
- your fortran users.

I will see if i can find the problem

regards

Thierry

Thank's for helping out!

Here are the files (I have a lot of versions but I think these are okey, except that the waves are too low within the model domain.

Regards
Charlotta

The last file...

I have problems with attaching the conlim file so here it is in text:
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2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 6140 238
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 6147 239
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 6149 240
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 6142 241
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 6127 242
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 6120 243
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 6102 244
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 6089 245
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 6067 246
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 6046 247
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 6030 248
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 6005 249
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5974 250
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5970 251
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5999 252
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5981 253
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5942 254
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5884 255
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5839 256
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5863 257
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5816 258
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5757 259
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5686 260
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5626 261
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5575 262
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5560 263
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5538 264
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5447 265
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5337 266
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5183 267
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 5056 268
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 4997 269
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 4900 270
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 4810 271
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 4712 272
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 4619 273
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 4555 274
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 4510 275
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 4442 276
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 4392 277
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 4309 278
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 4222 279
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 4149 280
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 4085 281
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 4042 282
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 4021 283
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3982 284
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3927 285
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3977 286
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3985 287
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3997 288
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3994 289
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3957 290
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3973 291
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3952 292
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3939 293
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3928 294
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3929 295
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3930 296
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3924 297
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3886 298
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3841 299
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3808 300
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3781 301
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3780 302
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3789 303
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3791 304
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3776 305
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3760 306
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3744 307
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3719 308
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3713 309
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3714 310
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3693 311
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3654 312
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3620 313
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3566 314
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3502 315
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3440 316
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3379 317
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3313 318
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3245 319
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3192 320
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3138 321
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3094 322
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3052 323
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 3019 324
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2970 325
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2900 326
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2859 327
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2836 328
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2790 329
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2726 330
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2659 331
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2590 332
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2522 333
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2459 334
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2401 335
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2340 336
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2287 337
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2227 338
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2168 339
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2108 340
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 2048 341
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 1927 342
2 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 1815 343
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 1706 344
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 1599 345
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 1493 346
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 1396 347
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 1300 348
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 1212 349
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 1126 350
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 1046 351
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 968 352
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 894 353
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 826 354
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 764 355
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 701 356
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 640 357
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 587 358
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 540 359
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 492 360
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 449 361
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 411 362
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 374 363
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 341 364
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 313 365
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 283 366
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 271 367
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 251 368
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 232 369
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 215 370
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 198 371
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 181 372
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 164 373
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 149 374
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 136 375
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 122 376
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 108 377
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 97 378
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 85 379
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 75 380
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 64 381
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 55 382
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 47 383
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 39 384
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 32 385
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 25 386
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 20 387
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 14 388
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 10 389
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 7 390
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 391
5 4 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 2 392

Hi Thierry!

Did you have time to look at the files? I still don't have any explanation to the unrealistic energy loss within the model domain.

Thanks in advance,
Charlotta

Hello Charlotta,

In fact i was looking for some complements before answering, i have a full answer to give you, but if you are in a hurry you can make some calculations with
BOUNDARY ANGULAR DISTRIBUTION FUNCTION = 3.

i think i know why 2 does not work well but i have things to check before answering.

Thierry