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TOPIC: Difficulties to initiate hotstart

Difficulties to initiate hotstart 2 years 9 months ago #39789

  • Alexandre
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Dear all,

In order to simulate deltaïc environment (coupling of telemac-2d, sisyphe and tomawac) I need to program a hotstart to help convergence at inlet boundary. However, I encounter difficulties to re-use the result of the previous simulation. Indeed, despite the hotstart, I encounter free velocity problem and don't really understand how to fix them (NB : Froude number is below one so I'm in Fluvial regime). First, I need to specify that I have a difference of elevation between the inlet boundary (385.6 m) and Lake Geneva (372.10m) at outllet of the domain is about 13.5m. Thus I tried difference strategies :
  • First to prescribe an initial elevation of 385.6m to fill the domain and let stabilize during a high period. Concerning hydraulics despite the convergence period and the small required timestep there are no problem but when coupling to sisyphe, there are lots of erosion and deposition outside of the river. It creates very high computation costs when coupling telemac to tomawac.
  • Secondly, I tried to dig a hole in bathymetry at inlet, it was also a nice solution to help convergence of telemac-2d but it creates a huge trap for the sediments that deposited just at the inlet boundary.
  • Third, I tried the hotstart with the real topography (without the hole mentionned above) and I didn't manage to help convergence. That's why I ask for your help.

If you think the solution to my problem is not the hotstart or if you have advices please let me know and I will try also these solutions.
You will find attached to this message my .cas file for the hotstart, and the necessary file to compile it.I Hope it will help you to understand where my problem is.

With best regards,
Alexandre


Topographie_Aubonne.png


File Attachment:

File Name: BC_Aubonne_V4_2022-02-13.cli
File Size: 54 KB


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File Name: src_source_hotstart.txt
File Size: 0 KB


File Attachment:

File Name: Aubonne_geometry_V4_2022-02-13.slf
File Size: 824 KB




File Attachment:

File Name: aubonne_steady_state_hotstart.cas
File Size: 5 KB
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Difficulties to initiate hotstart 2 years 9 months ago #39790

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Please find attached here the link to download the previous computation file :

www.grosfichiers.com/d45qffxnsAe

Best regards,
Alexandre
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Difficulties to initiate hotstart 2 years 9 months ago #39792

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Hi all,

Reading my post again, I think I was unclear in my message.


Here is the geometry file with the hole in the bathymetry :

File Attachment:

File Name: Aubonne_geometry_V4_2022-02-14.slf
File Size: 824 KB



Here is the geometry file without the hole on the bathymetry :

File Attachment:

File Name: Aubonne_geometry_V5.slf
File Size: 824 KB


And you must adapt the following file to run the simulation with hotstart with and without the hole (with the geometry file with the hole in the bathymetry it runs but with no hole in the bathymetry the hotstart is not running - SUPERCRITICAL ENTRY WITH FREE DEPTH problem) :

File Attachment:

File Name: aubonne_steady_state_hotstart_2022-02-14.cas
File Size: 5 KB



Hope it is more clear like this,
Alexandre
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Difficulties to initiate hotstart 2 years 9 months ago #39793

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Dear all,

Problem solved, it was numerical parameters that were'nt correctly set.
I uploaded hereunder the .cas file that works in case someone encounter the same problem with a steep bottom geometry :


File Attachment:

File Name: aubonne_steady_state_hotstart_2022-02-14-3.cas
File Size: 5 KB



Hope the .cas file will help, do not hesitate to contact me if you encountered similar problem and do not understand how to solve them.

Best regards,
Alexandre
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