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Problem tidal simulation with TELEMAC2D 11 years 7 months ago #8215

  • Flo64
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Hi,

I want to make a tidal simulation in Scotland.
I work with the NEA Atlas. I create the harmonics constants file with the COMODO tools. I have one liquid boundary between the points 148 and 362. Also, i have 215 points on my boundary.

When i run my simulation, I have this printout for each iteration:

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ITERATION 26280 TEMPS : 365 J 0 H 0 MIN 0.0000 S ( 31536000.0000 S)
ETAPE DE CONVECTION
ETAPE DE DIFFUSION-PROPAGATION
GMRES (BIEF) : 1 ITERATIONS, PRECISION RELATIVE: NaN
BILAN DE VOLUME D'EAU
VOLUME DANS LE DOMAINE : NaN M3
FLUX FRONTIERE 1 : NaN M3/S ( >0 : ENTRANT <0 : SORTANT )
ERREUR ABSOLUE EN VOLUME A T = 0.3154E+08 S: NaN
BILAN FINAL DE VOLUME D'EAU

ERREUR ABSOLUE CUMULEE SUR LE VOLUME : NaN

VOLUME INITIAL : 0.000000 M3
VOLUME FINAL : NaN M3
VOLUME TOTAL PERDU : NaN M3

As you can see, i have a lot of Nan!!

I try to modify my harmonics constants file but apparently it is not the explication of these NaN.

I put my files:


File Attachment:

File Name: Maree_ecosse.zip
File Size: 724 KB



Somebody can help me?

Thanks in advance
Florian
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Problem tidal simulation with TELEMAC2D 11 years 7 months ago #8216

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Hello florian

I think that you have big troubles with you mesh, try to view it with fudaa or BK and you will see that there is weird and unlogical bathymetry.

With my best regards,

Riadh ATA
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Problem tidal simulation with TELEMAC2D 11 years 7 months ago #8217

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Thanks Riadh,

My bathymetry is unlogical. I didn't see that with MATISSE

thanks

Florian
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Problem tidal simulation with TELEMAC2D 11 years 7 months ago #8219

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Riadh,

I change my bathymetry but my simulation always fails.
I have this error message.
HAVE YOU GOT AN IDEA WHY?

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INBIEF (BIEF) : MACHINE NON VECTORIELLE (SELON VOS DONNEES)
STRCHE (BIEF) : PAS DE MODIFICATION DU FROTTEMENT

NOMBRE DE FRONTIERES LIQUIDES : 1

CORFON (TELEMAC2D) : PAS DE MODIFICATION DU FOND

================================================================================
ITERATION 0 TEMPS : 0.0000 S
USING STREAMLINE VERSION 6.2 FOR CHARACTERISTICS
PROSOU : EN COORDONNEES CARTESIENNES, LE
COEFFICIENT DE CORIOLIS EST LU DANS LE
FICHIER DES PARAMETRES ET CORRESPOND
AU MOT-CLE 'COEFFICIENT DE CORIOLIS'
IL EST ALORS CONSTANT EN ESPACE
GMRES (BIEF) : MAX D' ITERATIONS ATTEINT: 100 PRECISION RELATIVE: 0.4203981
GMRES (BIEF) : MAX D' ITERATIONS ATTEINT: 100 PRECISION RELATIVE: 18.81650
GMRES (BIEF) : MAX D' ITERATIONS ATTEINT: 100 PRECISION RELATIVE: 2.681021
GMRES (BIEF) : MAX D' ITERATIONS ATTEINT: 100 PRECISION RELATIVE: 373.7218
GMRES (BIEF) : MAX D' ITERATIONS ATTEINT: 100 PRECISION RELATIVE: 2.291204
GMRES (BIEF) : MAX D' ITERATIONS ATTEINT: 100 PRECISION RELATIVE: 8.407511
GMRES (BIEF) : MAX D' ITERATIONS ATTEINT: 100 PRECISION RELATIVE: 1.565577
GMRES (BIEF) : MAX D' ITERATIONS ATTEINT: 100 PRECISION RELATIVE: 0.2071870
@STREAMLINE::SCARACT: THE NUMBER OF TRACEBACK INTERFACE CROSSINGS IGEN > 99

PLANTE : ARRET DU PROGRAMME APRES ERREUR
SORTIE DE PVM : APPEL DE P_EXIT

SORTIE DE MPI

Thanks
Florian
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Problem tidal simulation with TELEMAC2D 11 years 7 months ago #8220

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I think that there is a link with the keywords "solver" but i am not sure
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Problem tidal simulation with TELEMAC2D 11 years 7 months ago #8221

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Hello,

You probably still have a problem in your data or initial conditions. Anyway you should try to start in scalar mode to sort problems out. The use of GMRES for solver is possible but not necessary if you use :

TREATMENT OF THE LINEAR SYSTEM : 2

in which case (wave equation option) the conjugate gradient (SOLVER = 1) is enough.

With best regards,

Jean-Michel Hervouet
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Problem tidal simulation with TELEMAC2D 11 years 7 months ago #8222

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jean-Michel,

Thanks for yours indications.

My domain is composed by 1 liquid boundary and 43 solid boundaries (islands).
I would like to know if i must indicate the initial and boundary conditions for each solid boundary?

Must i use the keyword 'TIDAL FLATS = OUI' for the islands?
Thanks
Florian
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Problem tidal simulation with TELEMAC2D 11 years 7 months ago #8223

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I have another question:

In the charac.f subroutine, we call SCARACT. I search SCARACT but i don't find it.
Whats is SCARACT? a subroutine?

Thanks
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Problem tidal simulation with TELEMAC2D 11 years 7 months ago #8224

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No, islands in the mesh are not tidal flats, they are supposed to have boundaries like vertical walls. Use TIDAL FLATS= OUI only if you have no water in some zones. There is no specific boundary condition to give on solid boundaries.

SCARACT is in the module of characteristics called streamline.f, in bief library (but your problem is not there...).

Regards,

JMH
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Problem tidal simulation with TELEMAC2D 11 years 7 months ago #8225

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Jean-Michel,

Could you see my steering file (orcades.cas) and my geometry file (in the first topic of this post) please? And give me your opinion?

Thanks you very much

florian
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