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What the means of propagation 9 years 8 months ago #16376

  • zqzuoan
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hi,everyone,
The user mannual shows that there are propagation, advection of u/v, diffusion and source terms in the dynamic equations, but I have never heard the propagation. What is it specifically? Whether the waves are included, there is propagation term?
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What the means of propagation 9 years 8 months ago #16381

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Hello,

The propagation is the propagation of waves at the celerity sqrt(gh). Basically the propagation term in the momentum equation is the term -g*grad(free surface). It can be shown also in the shallow water continuit equation, by eliminating the velocity. Then a wave equation appears with the celerity sqrt(gh). This is why the depth in the term div(hu) in the continuity equation is called propagation depth.

With best regards,

Jean-Michel Hervouet
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What the means of propagation 9 years 7 months ago #16428

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Thank you, JMH
As I understand it, ∂(u)/∂t+u▽(u)=-g*grd(free surface)+(diffusion term) + (source term), so the -g*grd(free surface)is the propagation term?
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What the means of propagation 9 years 7 months ago #16433

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That's it.

JMH
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What the means of propagation 9 years 7 months ago #16436

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Thank you very much!

In addition, I have encountered a problem. ve. I want to solve an advection–diffusion equation with a unit (negative) source term in the control region.

In a first step, I use the hydrodynamic model to generate the velocity and turbulence fields
as usual, and the intermediate results are stored. Then, in a second step,the equation I want to solve is integrated backward in time using the hydrodynamic fields computed in the first step.

So I read the velocity and turbulence fields in the telemac2d.f, and set the time step as negative,and add a unit (negative) source term via TIMP%ADR(1)%P%R(I)=-1.D0. The results is negative, and I wonder if I was wrong?
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