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problem in simulation of dry river 7 years 11 months ago #24679

  • rogassa
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I am beginner in TELEMAC. I want to simulate an unsteady flow in Dry River. I have a hydrograph (time-discharge) for the inlet and rating curve in the outlet. But that did not work.

Would you have any recommendation or advice?
Please find attached my steering file.

please suggest me my loopholes.

Regards,

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problem in simulation of dry river 7 years 10 months ago #24680

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Hello

You a have a nice model :)
The mesh is OK and the boundary conditions also.
Actually the rive is not completely dry. To run propoerly the hydrograph, you need to generate a real initial condition and then to run the model with a hot start.
To do that, run the model without the hydrograph and without the rating curve.
put
PRESCRIBED FLOWRATES = 0.;1.
PRESCRIBED ELEVATIONS = 458.;0.

I attached here a new steering file and a new selefin file that you can use.

I hope that this helps

with my best regards

Riadh

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problem in simulation of dry river 7 years 10 months ago #24688

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Thank you, Mr. Riadh, for the response

It seems that there was a problem in the site in theses few days

The new problem is that the result file is empty. Can you help me?

with my best regards
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problem in simulation of dry river 7 years 10 months ago #24689

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Hello

This is strange !
what is the size of the result file ? is the simulation running well ?
Can you post a snapshot of the listing?
Riadh
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problem in simulation of dry river 7 years 10 months ago #24705

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Hello,

I just modify the "parallel processors" from 0 to 1

Please find attached my steering file.

Regards,
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problem in simulation of dry river 7 years 10 months ago #24745

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Hello
Sorry for this late reply.
Actually your mesh is with very poor quality. You have elements that intersect between them. This is the error message I got when running Telemac on your case:
STOSEG: WRONG MESH
FACE 3
OF ELEMENT 17239
IS NOT WELL ORIENTED
(POINTS 9283 AND 3052 )
This is probably due to the use of the channel mesher of Blue Kenue with a very high meandering angle.

You need to build again your mesh in a more optimal way.

I hope that this helps
with my best regards

Riadh
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problem in simulation of dry river 7 years 10 months ago #24862

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Hello

Thank you, Mr. Riadh,

First, I have corrected my mesh manually (elements that intersect between them). Please let me know if there is an automatic method.

Second, as you have seen above: to run properly the hydrograph, I need to generate a real initial condition and then to run the model with a hot start. Please can you give me more details, or direct me to a document which explains this method.

Third, without this hot start file I can’t run my simulation.

Please find attached my steering file that I have used to generate my hot start file.

Regards,
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problem in simulation of dry river 7 years 10 months ago #24874

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Hi rogassa,

I'm interested in how the faulty mesh was generated in the first place.
Could you please send me the t3c and t3m files so i can try to reproduce the problem here?

Thanks... Martin
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problem in simulation of dry river 7 years 10 months ago #24887

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Hello

Please find attached my steering file that I have used to generate my hot start file.

You find also the t3c and t3m files used to create the selafin object.

hydrographs.liq and Rating_curve.txt are to create the unsteady simulation.

Regards,
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problem in simulation of dry river 7 years 10 months ago #24921

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Hello again

I will not be able to run your model. to help to debug the case, please run it again and tell us what is the error message you get.

with my best regards

Riadh
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