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Active Layer 9 years 7 months ago #16359

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Hello,

i'm modelling some erosion processes at a small test-channel(40x1m) the sediment is separated in 6 fractions and so i want to represent the development of the percentages of each fraction along the channel. Therefore i use a constant active layer with a thickness i estimated as three times the maximum sediment diameter. However i receive always an error after a short time: "Error in layer case 4". I found in the forum a similar topic, but the solution of varying the ZERO value does not help.
If i use the default value for the active layer (1000) the simulation works quite well and does not stop, but so the percentages of the fractions does not change. I guess this has something to do that a in the active layer a fraction vanished, and this is not implemented so far?

Maybe some one has some hints for this problem. I attached the sisyphe-steering file. If you need more information feel free to ask.

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Markus
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Active Layer 9 years 7 months ago #16364

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Hi,

Markus, your active layer thickness is two high, usually it is define as 2D50, or 3D50, but in your case, you could define as D90. because it is straight canal.
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Active Layer 9 years 7 months ago #16365

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Another thing, the following key words should be set in TELEMAC2d, not in SISYPHE except you use uncoupled model

FRICTION COEFFICIENT =0.008

RATIO BETWEEN SKIN FRICTION AND MEAN DIAMETER =3.0

LAW OF BOTTOM FRICTION =5
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Active Layer 9 years 7 months ago #16397

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Hi

I recommend you to comment the message errors in layer.f.
There are sometimes small error in the algorithm which allows the fractions to be less than 0 or the sum to become slightly different than 1.

But it should not have much effect on the results.

Good luck, cath
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Active Layer 9 years 7 months ago #16398

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Hi, cath,

I also have a question, if we use the roughness on sisyphe, do we need to define the keywords LAW OF BOTTOM FRICTION and FRICTION COEFFICIENT in sisphe.
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Active Layer 9 years 7 months ago #16399

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Hi cath,
thanks for your reply.
actual i'm not sure what you mean with "comment" the message errors? Did you mean it in that way:

ELSE
DO I=1,NSICLA
AVAIL(J,1,I) = ( AVAIL(J,1,I) * ELAY0
& + ZFCL_W%ADR(I)%P%R(J)
& - EVOL*AVAIL(J,2,I) )/ELAY0
IF(AVAIL(J,1,I).GT.1.D0+ZERO.OR.
& AVAIL(J,1,I).LT.-ZERO) THEN
WRITE(LU,*) 'ERROR IN LAYER CASE 4'
! CALL PLANTE(1)
! STOP
ENDIF
ENDDO
ELAY%R(J) = ELAY0
ESTRATNEW(J) = ESTRAT%R(J) + EVOL
ENDIF

if i did it so the simulation still broke down but now i receive a different error message, see the attached figure.

Interesting was the fact that if i run the same simulation on telemac version v6p3 it works quite well...

Markus
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